Feds outpace private workers by $7,000

[HumanRights]

Headline of USA Today on Friday March 5th.

It goes on to say "Feds outpace private workers by $7,000.

Later it says: "These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... 5_st.art.h tm

No wonder government employees defend their government so passionately!

[Yo Yo]

They ususallly never had to pay for medical insurance either. Retire at an age before the private sector can too. Isn't that right jack?

[Pragmaticone]

They ususallly never had to pay for medical insurance either. Retire at an age before the private sector can too. Isn't that right jack?

Being retired from the Army Reserve and 26 years with NASA I can attest that both the employment and retriement benefits are very generous. And I have Bf and other liberals here pushing for even MORE generous benefits for my military service. Thank you one and all.

[Jack of Hearts]

They ususallly never had to pay for medical insurance either. Retire at an age before the private sector can too. Isn't that right jack?

Nope. When my Dad worked for NYPD, he had to pay for medical benefits, and after 23 years he retired to begin working for the USMS - where he also had to pay into getting medical benefits. When I worked for the USMS, I received no medical insurance. But when you include a few million military personal, who get full housing, medical, board, etc. - the number$ about "benefits" gets a bit lopsided, don't you know.
Of course you also have the unions, collective bargaining, etc. You don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate - that's the American way - isn't it? (Prag, tell the Yo Yo about fair market value. )

[HumanRights]

The article said that the average government accountant gets $67000 per year with $40000 per year in benefits.

My son works in the private sector for $30,000 per year with NO benefits. He graduated Magna Cum Laude with an MBA. For four years he was a starter on the varsity hockey team too. He was unemployed most of last year.

To top it off, 1/3 of my son's slave wages go to government (to pay for all the fat government jobs at triple his pay & benefits).

[Pragmaticone]

Government jobs are open to everyone who meets the job criteria on a competitve basis.

[Jack of Hearts]

The article said that the average government accountant gets $67000 per year with $40000 per year in benefits.

That's what the article wanted you to think, but it did not say that - check it again. http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/ne ... st.art.htm Do not confuse statistical data, with economical analysis.

[Yo Yo]

All current and former Government workers are leaches.

[Jack of Hearts]

'Tell it to the Marines.'

[glitterbag]

Federal workers pay a large amount for their health insurance, they contribute to their own retirement plan, but we don't pay into Social Security because we have our own funded retirement program therefore we are ineligible for SSN.. We pay our own disability insurance premiums, our life insurance premiums and we do pay into medicare since we are also forced into medicare when we turn 65. Those of us who die before age 65 don't collect any medicaid reimbursement...the money goes into the larger fund where all the civilians piss and moan about what they imagine our benefits are, totally unaware that Federal workers pay taxes too. Last year my combined contibution for Federal, State, and County taxes (I almost forgot my property tax) ran about $48,000. We also have a sales tax in Maryland, that doesn't get taken into consideration at tax filing time.

By the way, Maryland doesn't see much of the money collected by the Feds, it goes to places like North Dakota, Maine, Kentucky and other sparsely populated states that see paying taxes as an unjust burden. They don't ever seem to turn away the money collected by Maryland, Conneticut, New York, Mass. and other States but I don't understand why they find it easy to take money from the dens of inequities that the Blue States represent. Really, why should they pay for their own projecfs if they can gobble up the money collected elsewhere.

[HumanRights]

Government jobs are open to everyone who meets the job criteria on a competitve basis.

I've submitted my resume for government jobs for years and never have had an interview.

Glitterbag,

The same is true with Social Security. It gets collected in the "rich states with little old houses" and sent to the "poor states with MacMansions". I've paid SS at the top salary rate and collect at $1600/month. I've gone back to work to pay for my kid's college educations and, as a result of my income, they will turn off my meager SS shortly.

[Pragmaticone]

Government jobs are open to everyone who meets the job criteria on a competitve basis.

I've submitted my resume for government jobs for years and never have had an interview.
Then you did not meet the criteria for the position or your resume did not score in the top tier of applicants.

[HumanRights]

Then you did not meet the criteria for the position or your resume did not score in the top tier of applicants.

A euphemism for no previous government experience. Funny, that doesn't stop the presidents.

Funny, the private sector doesn't hire ex-government employees either, not that they would want to work for reduced rates. But, years ago when the private sector earned more, the private sector still didn't have ex government employees.

And Prag, I refused my commission as a second lieutenant because I didn't want to kill. So much for your theory...

[Pragmaticone]

A euphemism for no previous government experience.

Nor does it preclude qualifying for a competed government position.

[HumanRights]

Then you did not meet the criteria for the position or your resume did not score in the top tier of applicants.

Actually, my experience as a test engineer doesn't fit too many government jobs in my area. Ergo, no interviews.
I mean how many electrical devices does government make?

Does government produce anything?

Producing nothing sure pays well....